Theresa Frasher discusses her career as a production worker and UAW member at the Fisher Body plant in Lansing, MI Cheryl McQuaid: [recorder clicking] Today is March 16, 2006. It's approximately 9:30 a.m. We're at Gail [Hall 0:08] Frasher's home in Owosso, Michigan. [papers rustling] Um, first we're gonna introduce the members of the team that we have here today. Jerri Smith: Jerri Smith. Marilyn Coulter: Marilyn Coulter. Cheryl McQuaid: And I'm Cheryl McQuaid. Um, today we're interviewing, as I said, Theresa Gail Frasher. [0:33] And Gail, will you stated your name and spell it for us? Theresa Frasher: Theresa T-H-E-R-E-S-A. Frasher F-R-A-S-H-E-R. Cheryl McQuaid: [0:47] And what is your address? Theresa Frasher: 6191 Krouse Road, Ovid O-V-I-D, Michigan. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:00]And are you married? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:02] Do you have children? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:05] Where were you born and raised? Theresa Frasher: I was born in Lansing, but I was raised in Missouri. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:13] And what is your educational level? Theresa Frasher: A high school grad. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:17] Were you in he military? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:19] Um, what branch of military? Theresa Frasher: I was a Army Reservist. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:29] [tsk] Uh, what did your parents do for a living [clanking]? Theresa Frasher: Um, my father was a, um, [writing] a night policeman, and my mother was just a homemaker. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:43] What did you do before you hired in to Fisher Body? Theresa Frasher: I worked in a hospital. Cheryl McQuaid: [1:52] Doing what? Theresa Frasher: As a nurse's aide. [clanking] Cheryl McQuaid: [1:54] And where was that hospital at? Theresa Frasher: In Lansing. Cheryl McQuaid: [2:01] When did you come to Lansing after living in Missouri? Theresa Frasher: In 1971. Cheryl McQuaid: [2:11] So you were in Missouri for 20 years? Theresa Frasher: No. Cheryl McQuaid: That's bad math. [laughter] Theresa Frasher: No. I was 15 when I came to Lansing. Cheryl McQuaid: [laughter] Theresa Frasher: [Inaudible 2:24]. Cheryl McQuaid: [2:26] Could you tell me a little bit about why you hired in to Fisher Body? How did you know they were hiring? Theresa Frasher: Media. Cheryl McQuaid: [2:32] It was in the news or...? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: And... Theresa Frasher: That was when they were hirin' people off the street and not using unemployment. Cheryl McQuaid: Mmm. [2:50] And when did you hire in to Fisher Body? [clanking] Theresa Frasher: August the 22nd, 1977. Cheryl McQuaid: [2:59] Did you – were you one a the people that came down and put your application in and stood in line...? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [3:02] How long of a line did you have to stand in? Theresa Frasher: Um, I think I – it – I think I stood in line probly about an hour and a half, 2 hours. Cheryl McQuaid: Good weather, I hope. Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [3:15] Do you remember any a the people you were standin' in [clanking] that line with? Theresa Frasher: No. Cheryl McQuaid: [3:24] The day that you hired in to Fisher Body, [background movement] how did, how were you shown your job? [writing] Theresa Frasher: I was – I reported to the, to the main office, the supervisor's offices, and I took the – one a the main supervisors took me to [click] a job, and they began to show me how to do a particular job. But then some a the other [background movement] workers told them that they could not put me on that job because it was not legal because the person that was on it was just on vacation so they could not place me on it. So then I had to go back to the supervisor's office until they could find a place to put me. So it was kind of... Cheryl McQuaid: [4:29] Did you sit in the office for quite a while? Theresa Frasher: For the rest a the day, yes. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh, really. Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: Marilyn Coulter. Marilyn Coulter: [4:33] And what department was this in? Theresa Frasher: In Trim. Marilyn Coulter: In the Trim Department. Theresa Frasher: Yes. Marilyn Coulter: [4:43] Okay. Was it on the big car line or the little car line? You remember? Theresa Frasher: It was on the big car line. Marilyn Coulter: Big car line. Oh. [4:50] Is it – was it the – was it the hard trim or the soft trim? Theresa Frasher: It was, uh, soft trim. [writing] Marilyn Coulter: It was soft trim. Ah. [Inaudible 5:00]. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:01] Gail, did you wo-, hire in on first shift or second shift? [writing] Theresa Frasher: It was first shift. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:07] How long were you on that first shift? [writing] Theresa Frasher: Um, just a few months. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:17] And then you were bumped to second shift? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:19] How old were you when you hired in? [writing] Theresa Frasher: 22. Cheryl McQuaid: Hm. So young. [5:27] So the next day, you were actually put on your first job? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:33] What did you think about the plant and what was your first reaction walkin' in there? Theresa Frasher: I was just glad that I was working. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:48] Was the money a big decidin' factor in goin' in there? [background movement] Theresa Frasher: Yes. Cheryl McQuaid: [5:54] So can you tell me about some a the people you worked around? [papers rustling] Some a the people that you met? [papers rustling] Theresa Frasher: Um, God, it's been 30 some-, 30 year, almost 30 years ago. [background noises] [writing] [recorder clicking] Theresa Frasher: All right. [Whenever 6:20] I first, the first job that they really tried to get me on was, uh, [clanking] we had a boss [clanking] that – [Floyd Jackson 6:34] was the M-, what is it? MC? Cheryl McQuaid: Mm-hm. [clanking] General Foreman? Theresa Frasher: General Foreman. Thank you. [background noises] And, um, he, when he shift changed, when they done the rollover from the, the, the night [background movement] guy came to the day shift and the day shift went to the nights, we got John... Jerri Smith: [John] [Inaudible 7:02]? [clanking] Cheryl McQuaid: No, John... Theresa Frasher: [Powers 7:04]. Cheryl McQuaid: Powers. Jerri Smith: Powers. Okay. Theresa Frasher: Okay. John Powers. Okay. John Powers had this great, bright idea for me and [Rose 7:13] [clanking], big-boobed Rose... Cheryl McQuaid: [Rodriguez 7:18]. Theresa Frasher: ...to put [clanking] sunroofs in... Cheryl McQuaid: Mm-hm. Theresa Frasher: ...which were these [clanking] big, heavy [clanking] things, and we were supposed to be the ones to do this. This job. [clanking] So he had me and her gonna do this job on days. Well me and her were trying to do this job [clanking] on days. Well after they realized we couldn't do it, they [clanking] put her on some other job and then they put me behind the ovens, which the ovens you had ta – it's what the car went through... Cheryl McQuaid: Mm-hm. Theresa Frasher: ...the heated... Cheryl McQuaid: Mm-hm. Theresa Frasher: ...ovens before you put your, your – so that they could put the glue on so that they could put the... Cheryl McQuaid: Mm-hm. Theresa Frasher: ...the vinyl paddings and stuff on before they put the vinyl tops on. [background movement] They had me doing rework, and it was a rework thing. They had to put a patch on the side because there was a space that was not gettin' covered with these pads before the [background movement], before the vinyl was [clanking] going on. So I – I was having to do a rework job. So that was my job for a couple a months before I finally had to go to night shift. [background movement] Cheryl McQuaid: [8:41] What do you think the big difference was between day shift and night shift? Theresa Frasher: Just the, you know, not gettin' to do things. I mean, when you have, my kid, after I had my kids and all was havin' to work nights I didn't like. I think I missed out a lot with, with him. Cheryl McQuaid: Marilyn Coulter. Marilyn Coulter: [9:16] Gail, um, after working in a hospital and then coming into a factory and you have the different types of noises and you're buildin' cars versus, you know, taking care of people, what was that like goin' in from a hospital environment to comin' into a factory environment? Was it a big difference for you? Theresa Frasher: Yeah, but, you know. [background movement] [papers rustling] Marilyn Coulter: [9:42] Was the factory what you had expected? Did you know anybody who worked in the – in Fisher Body before you hired in? Theresa Frasher: My brother worked in a factory. [clanking] Marilyn Coulter: Okay. [9:51] So you kinda figured – you kinda had an idea of what you were gonna walk into? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. I had toured... Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. Theresa Frasher: ...Oldsmobile before so... Marilyn Coulter: Okay. So you kinda knew what a factory was gonna look like inside. Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. Cheryl McQuaid: [10:06] So you, uh, [clanking] were doin' the rework job. How long did that job last? [clanking] Theresa Frasher: I think it was just a couple [background movement] of months. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh really? So it was very temporary. Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: [10:18] What, uh... Theresa Frasher: Actually, there was worry of whether you're gettin' laid off by Christmas or not, you know? Cheryl McQuaid: [10:28] And did you get laid off? Theresa Frasher: No, I was – it was a lotta people that did, but [background movement] at first, you know... Cheryl McQuaid: Seems like I remember some a the layoffs back then were [background movement] a – you may have been right on the line... Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: ...of getting' laid off or not bein' laid off. [thumping] Theresa Frasher: That's the way it was. Cheryl McQuaid: Didn't go to the last minute. [clanking] [10:55] [background movement] Do you remember, um, any of the collections? I know you did a lotta collections for charities and goin' around the floor and takin' up money for stuff. Do you remember how much work that was tryin' ta get a job done and run out and collect and...? [papers rustling] Theresa Frasher: I did the [background movement] [papers rustling] thing for the, uh, the orphanage thing. Yeah, it was, it was hard. I had a lotta help. Lotta help. Cheryl McQuaid: [11:30] People coverin' your job so that you could run and get [inaudible 11:33]? Theresa Frasher: Coverin' my job and a lotta workin' up the line ta just get a minute here or a minute there and losin' a job down the line and havin' to work it back up and, you know. But yeah, there was a lot of, lotta money made. Marilyn Coulter: [11:57] Did you find that the people you worked with were very [clanking] open when it came time to giving things to charity? Theresa Frasher: When it was done properly, yeah. Marilyn Coulter: Ah. [12:09] So it made a difference on the how and the who, huh? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. I think so. Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. [12:17] Um, when you hired in, do you remember any, um, do you remember what, were, were there any pranks or jokes for new-hire initiations that you had to go through? Theresa Frasher: Uhhh... Marilyn Coulter: Or witness maybe. Theresa Frasher: Well there was always somethin' goin' on. Marilyn Coulter: [12:39] Do you have any a those funny moments that you remember seein'? Cheryl McQuaid: Do you, um – I'm sorry, Cheryl McQuaid. [12:52] Do you [clanking], do you remember what some – a typical lunch would've been? [clanking] [background movement] What'd you do for lunch? [clanking] Theresa Frasher: Wrong question. Cheryl McQuaid: Wrong question? [laughter] Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: [13:06] Um, how 'bout break times? [clanking] Was that like playing cards or...? Theresa Frasher: Played a lotta cards. Cheryl McQuaid: [13:12] What kinda cards did you play? Theresa Frasher: Lotta euchre. Usually euchre. Marilyn Coulter: [13:22] Now Gail, did you live close to the plant? Did you live far away? [Inaudible 13:25]. Theresa Frasher: I lived within walking distance, yes. Marilyn Coulter: [13:27] So you walked to work? What was it like... Theresa Frasher: Not night shift but when I was on days that, there was times that I walked. And [Carol Cap 13:35] used ta, when I was on days, [background movement] she would sometimes come and park at the house and her and I would walk to work. Marilyn Coulter: Oh. [13:46] So what was that like living that close to where you worked? Theresa Frasher: It was nice so you didn't have to get up as early. Didn't take you as long ta get ready to go to work so you could sleep in [so 14:02]... Marilyn Coulter: [14:03] When you lived in the plant, were there ever any kinda noises, high traffic, or anything like that that you had living close, to a, to a assembly plant? Theresa Frasher: Not to the plant itself, no. Marilyn Coulter: No? [14:18] Do, do you remember what your nei- you or some a your neighbors mighta felt about the plant and the people workin' there? Did your neighbors like the fact that the plant was there? Theresa Frasher: I don't think they had – anybody had any problem with it. [clanking] Marilyn Coulter: [14:38] Um, did you find that by living close – well actually, I'll back up a little bit. [background movement] Did you find that, um – did you see [papers rustling] your co-workers of – like your brothers and your sisters kinda like? Families and friends? [background movement] Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Marilyn Coulter: [14:55] Yeah? So you developed a lotta longstanding relationships? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. [And I still see 14:59]. Marilyn Coulter: Uh-huh. And now, 'cause your husband also works there. [thumping] Theresa Frasher: Correct. Marilyn Coulter: Correct. [15:08] And, um, by having friends in the plant and living so close to the plant, did you find that sometimes you got more company than you really wanted? Theresa Frasher: Sometimes. Marilyn Coulter: [15:21] So sometimes there's plusses and minuses living close [inaudible 15:23]? [laughter] Theresa Frasher: Sometimes. But mosta the time, it was, you know, I had no problem. Marilyn Coulter: Okay. That's good. Cheryl McQuaid: [15:37] Gail, another thing I know that you [clanking] did in the plant was you put together a lotta the departmental [clanking] dinners. [clanking] Was that kind of like the collections [papers rustling] workin' up the line, tryin' to get somebody to sign up to bring this dish, that dish? Can you tell me a little bit about that whole process? Theresa Frasher: [background movement] We just [writing] usually just had, uh, organizin' a dinner was just, you know, like you said, [background noises] just everybody bring somethin' in ta, ta have a dinner with. [writing] One person bring [beeping], you know, this dish and another one bring that and I'd have ta do, you know, a couple a jobs at a time [background noises] in order ta have a couple a minutes extra ta, ta talk to somebody to find out what they were gonna bring so that we wouldn't have duplications or somethin'. Cheryl McQuaid: [16:43] And were those, there those few people that you didn't wanna ask'm what they were gonna bring you maybe told'm please bring this because you make that awesome – or were there people that just had good dishes that you liked brought in or...? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Certain people had certain things that you knew you could count on. Cheryl McQuaid: Okay. [writing] Marilyn Coulter: [17:02] Did you only do dinners for holidays, or did you sometimes do'm just because it was Saturday? Theresa Frasher: Usually ev-, every Saturday we'd have dinners. Like a tailgate. Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. [17:15] And that kinda helped to build that camaraderie amongst employees, didn't it? Theresa Frasher: Yes, it did. Marilyn Coulter: Particularly being young. [laughter] Cheryl McQuaid: [17:23] Do you remember any of the supervisors you had? What any a the good supervisors or bad supervisors and...? Marilyn Coulter: [17:30] What made'm good-bad? Cheryl McQuaid: [17:32] Yeah. What made that supervisor good or bad? Theresa Frasher: Oh you had people like [Paul Grant 17:36]. Paul Grant was good because usually if you get a supervisor like Paul Grant and, and [Bob Vaughn 17:44] and st-, people like that – you do your job, you do what you're supposed to do, they'll leave ya alone. And if they leave ya alone, then you're okay. [background movement] Then you're fine. And they were like that. You know? [papers rustling] Cheryl McQuaid: [18:07] So that's what made a good supervisor was somebody that let you do your job [inaudible 18:08]? Theresa Frasher: Just let you do your job. If you're doin' it right, ya know – so if you do your job, then they'd stay off your back and... Cheryl McQuaid: [18:21] Do you have a favorite memory of bein' [papers rustling] in the plant? Theresa Frasher: Uhhh... Cheryl McQuaid: [18:30] Or a saddest memory? Theresa Frasher: Yeah, I've got a sad memory. A bad memory I should say. Cheryl McQuaid: [18:42] Do you wanna share it with us or...? Theresa Frasher: I guess I could tell you about it. I thought it was awful when that guy was – got crushed up in 3X. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh. Marilyn Coulter: Oh. Theresa Frasher: It was awful. I was there. I thought that was terrible 'cause it was – they took too long for anybody to get up there. Jerri Smith: Yes, it did. I was there that day too. You're right. Theresa Frasher: Because I was [inaudible 19:06] from one end, and I had walked all the way over. I saw people runnin' with the, you know, the [background movement] red hats and stuff, but nobody – [background noises] 'cause I watched'm when they took'm down, and he was gone when they took him down. Jerri Smith: Yeah, like a piece a wet spaghetti [inaudible 19:21]. Took a long time to see. And even though... Theresa Frasher: And they won't pronounce anybody dead in that plant. No. But he was dead. Jerri Smith: Yeah he was [inaudible 19:36]. [background movement] Theresa Frasher: And that was awful. [writing] Marilyn Coulter: I know that after that day they had – because we do have a wonderful EAP program, and they had counseling. [19:53] Did you go, did you get to receive some a the counseling that they gave us from that? Theresa Frasher: No I didn't [clanking] [inaudible 19:59]. Marilyn Coulter: [Inaudible 19:59] talked to them. I know they had provided that service 'cause – and I know they got there as fast as they could and it seemed like an eternity because, you know, at times like that it seems like forever when they respond. And [the ERT 20:11] team, they responded, but, um, that was a difficult time with all the workers working and then you're stopped at that particular [writing] point. [20:22] And, um, d-, did you find, did that, did that bring you and your co-workers together more for a brief period of time – sharing something awful like that? Theresa Frasher: I don't think really anybody – nobody else will – I, I don't know. Everybody just kinda... Marilyn Coulter: Didn't talk about it, huh? Theresa Frasher: ...didn't talk about it. Cheryl McQuaid: [20:52] When did that happen? Do you remember a year? [background noises] [clicking] Theresa Frasher: Oh... [background noises] Marilyn Coulter: It happened – it was during change – I don't [inaudible 20:59] change [inaudible] so [it had to have been in the 90s]. Cheryl McQuaid: Was that when [papers rustling] they were puttin' the monorail in... Marilyn Coulter: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: ...[inaudible 21:08 [the doors off]? Female: Yep. Female: Mm-hm. Yep. Cheryl McQuaid: [Inaudible 21:10]. Female: [Inaudible]. Theresa Frasher: [Inaudible 21:11]. Right [back] where our old teams were. Marilyn Coulter: [21:14] And he was a contract... Female: Employee. Marilyn Coulter: ...employee? Theresa Frasher: Yeah and he spo-, wasn't 'spose ta be up there [coughing] without a spotter [tapping] down below. Marilyn Coulter: Yeah. Yeah. He was – and in fact – unfortunately, that was his last day. He was gettin' ready to, to retire from his company after that week. Theresa Frasher: There was [clanking] 'spose to a been a [tapping] spotter down below. Marilyn Coulter: Mm. [tsk] He was workin' unsafe and, and, and, and doin' somethin' he really, you know, he didn't know what – how that chain was gonna, when that chain was gonna start back up. 'Cause he had started workin' durin' lunchtime and finishin' up somethin' during lunch, and when the line started up, he get caught in the chain. Theresa Frasher: Well he wasn't 'spose to be up there [clicking] without... Marilyn Coulter: Mm-hm. Theresa Frasher: ...[inaudible 2149 there was 'spose to of been a spotter down below... Marilyn Coulter: Mm-hm... Theresa Frasher: ...anyway. Marilyn Coulter: ...that's correct. [21:55] Now durin' your time workin' there, have you always worked in the Trim Department? Theresa Frasher: Yes. Marilyn Coulter: [22:00] And did you do most a your time on days or nights? Theresa Frasher: Most of it was on nights. Marilyn Coulter: Oh. [22:05] Did you have a preference between the shifts? Theresa Frasher: Uh, I wanted to be on days, but... Marilyn Coulter: [22:15] Was that 'cause you preferred it or 'cause you had children? Theresa Frasher: Well because I had, [papers rustling] I had a child. Marilyn Coulter: [22:23] Would you, would you say that... Theresa Frasher: It took that long [banging] to be able to get, you know, [papers rustling] get enough seniority to be able to get there and stay there. I had been there and then, you know, got bounced back and – 'cause I had went to the Door Line. I used to put a pull doors where you'd [papers rustling] have to go out and [papers rustling] [inaudible 22:54] where you'd go out and you'd have to pull the doors outta the boxes according to the way they would go, coming down the line to go on to the job. [background movement] Marilyn Coulter: [23:06] Oh so you pulled all the door trim panels? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Cheryl McQuaid: [23:08] And you sequenced them? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh, okay. Marilyn Coulter: [23:13] Now where, where the interior doors, were they heavy? Theresa Frasher: Yeah. Marilyn Coulter: Were they pretty heavy? 'Cause you're little. [laughter] Theresa Frasher: Well you had like a bread cart that you had to put 20 doors, enough for 20 cars and doors for 20 cars [tsk] and that meant sometimes 4 doors. Marilyn Coulter: Hmm. Theresa Frasher: So that would be front doors and rear doors. And your cart, bread cart could weigh up to a thousand pounds. Marilyn Coulter: Oh my goodness. Theresa Frasher: And they would want you to push cart around. And that's why [papers rustling] I got Sally Grubaugh and we got Ergonomics [papers rustling] to get me my little cart. They done an inter-, they done a whole thing. I done a video thing for them, for Ergonomics for, um... Marilyn Coulter: Oh. Theresa Frasher: ...when they got the little cart that we used that had, you know, that, to pull this thing with. 'Cause that was a thousand pounds that they were havin' me push by physically, you know. Marilyn Coulter: Hm. Theresa Frasher: It got to be really bad. Marilyn Coulter: You're lucky you didn't get injured pushin' that [inaudible 24:31] around. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh, yeah. Theresa Frasher: Well I [inaudible 24:34] workman's comp on'm because, you know, I kept gettin' leg problems, uh, 'cause I kep' pushin' off with one leg, you know, [coughing] [inaudible 24:45] [coughing]. Cheryl McQuaid: [24:48] So did the cart help you? Theresa Frasher: Oh, yeah. [clanking] Yeah, all I had to do was hook it up and get on it and [clanking]... Marilyn Coulter: So, so actually... Theresa Frasher: You can probably look it up in the papers. There was a write-up in the paper about it. Cheryl McQuaid: Oh in the [Inaudible 25:04]? Oh, okay. [writing] Marilyn Coulter: But, um, I have in Ergonomics 'cause Sally Grubaugh was an hourly employee who got to work in the Ergonomics Department. And, um, that was a good thing. That was one a those programs that came in place that actually helped workers pretty good, pretty much, don't you think? Theresa Frasher: My brother was the one that started [clicking] the Ergonomics program over at, uh... Marilyn Coulter: Really? Theresa Frasher: ...Oldsmobile. Marilyn Coulter: Really? Excellent. Jerri Smith: [25:33] What was his name? Theresa Frasher: [Will Clayton 25:34]. [writing] Cheryl McQuaid: [25:44] Ya know, Lansing was known as the Capital of Quality. Why do you think that it was, that it was called that? [background movement] Theresa Frasher: Because I think we done a good job at puttin' out a quality product. [background movement] Cheryl McQuaid: [26:00] Do you think that most a your co-workers cared about their jobs and what they did? Theresa Frasher: Yeah because I [inaudible 26:06] – everybody that I ever worked around didn't like puttin', uh, puttin' anything bad on a car. If it was junk, then they wouldn't put it on. Cheryl McQuaid: [26:20] Fisher Body also was called a lotta different things. BOP, BOC, uh, LAD, LCA. [background movement] What did you feel about the name changes? Theresa Frasher: It was Fisher Body. It's always been Fisher Body. [throat clearing] Marilyn Coulter: [Inaudible 26:40]? Theresa Frasher: I get tremors. Marilyn Coulter: Oh, okay. Cheryl McQuaid: [26:45] Is there anything that [inaudible 26:46]. Theresa Frasher: [Inaudible 26:47]. I'm sorry. I take a medication that has, that's like a, uh, like a chemo thing and sometimes I get tremors from it, so...sorry. Marilyn Coulter: No. You're fine. Cheryl McQuaid: That's okay. Marilyn Coulter: [Inaudible 26:57]. You're fine. I just want to make sure you were comfortable. That's all. You're good. Cheryl McQuaid: [27:04] Is there anything that we've not asked ya that you'd like, you'd like to share with us? Theresa Frasher: I can't think of anything. Female: [Inaudible 27:15]. Cheryl McQuaid: [Inaudible 27:16]. Female: Go 'head. Cheryl McQuaid: I just wanna say thank you so much for havin' us in your home and sharin' your memories with us. Jerri Smith: Thank you. Female: [Inaudible 27:24]. Theresa Frasher: I'm glad you out. Marilyn Coulter: Yes. Thank you. And I can thank you for all the dinners you probly helped put on and all the people you helped out through your collections. [sniffing] And she makes a wonderful piece a pie too. Theresa Frasher: [Inaudible 27:38]. [laughter] Cheryl McQuaid: Thank you, Gail. Theresa Frasher: Yep. /kj