MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY rA T F N E W S E a s t Lansing, Michigan A p r ii 3, 1968 2 Wednesday. April 3. 1968 2 s e e k f e m a l e p o s it io n Two candidates will be on the policies made by the faculty their prerogative. M ajority evaluated, then w ill be the three or four years here not know­ the ballot for fem ale member- but in conjunction with this rules. I f they take a poll, and tim e to decide if we should have ing what a member-at-large is at-large: P ar B a jo r. Carle ton. academic council, and have most of the students are for further visitation. Another im ­ or what the board is. It's kind of Mich., and Sally Simons. But­ a student sitting in on the facul­ dress regs. why not. Personally portant thing is that the stu­ disgusting, and I think this is ty academic council, so that I think it's up to the individual. dents should have a say in one of the areas the cabinet could ler. Pa. M iss B a jo r is a Social students have some voice in I feel better dressed nice and whether they want further visi­ work at. Science m a jo r whose a ctiv ities policy formulation with the ac­ neat, but if somebody else feels tation. So often you bave lead­ SIMONS-The cabinet is a in c M e : presM set of North tual policy being left up to the better dressed in their old blue ers pressing fo r visitation policy vital port of ASMSU. Here you C ase H a ll M em ber of Wom­ faculty. jeans and sweat shirt, that's w ith a lot of students not even find all the vice présidente who e n 's lu tti H t d h n f f Coun­ SIMONS-1 think the AFR has their right. concerned about it. or not want-' are in charge of different ASMSU cil. South Complex Council, done a good job in giving a lot of ing it. programs. We need better com­ Q Should a visitation policy, munication between the cabinet poticy com m ittee o f WIC and responsibility to students as well above and beyond the p reseat Q-How do you view affiliation and the board. This is one thing Spartan RonndtaMe. as the administration. It's very tria l opea houses, be attem pted? with the National Student Asso- that I would try to improve if I Miss Sim ons is a home good that students have a part economics m a jo r and has a in policy formulation. As it is were on the board. We depend 3.05 g.p.a. H er activities in­ now. it's a good set up. whereas on them quite a bit. clude: m em ber o f the student- ASMSU will decide on a policy, faculty library committee, the the faculty committee will de­ Q-How should ASMSU approach ASMSU trav el committee, the cide one. they agree and it is sent issues which arise in E ast Lan­ Water Carnival committee, on to the Board of Trustees. This sing such as high prices and secretary a f the Union Board is a fair way to do it. You've got apartment rent? and a dorm itory and sorority both sides in the policy. officer. BAJOR-The ASMSU liaison The fallowing is an inter­ Q—How dose does the present committee has a good start here. view w ith the two candidates situatira come to this ideal? They are already starting to work SIMONS-I think it's fairly Q~What ahoaM ASMSU’s role be w ith East Lansing officials and well run as it is now. in Inf n m iag atndsnti a b sa t their other people that rank in East BA JO R-I think we're working d raft ohhmMsan? Lansing on such things as high toward it now in the last term or SIM ONS-ASM SU did net up a prices and apartm ent rent. I so. but before that the students cabinet position w hich i s respon­ imagine this committee w ill haven't had too much to say in sible for inform ing students take care of issues which arise. academic m atters. I'm kind of about their d ra ft obligations, but I think we should retain our glad to see the students coming not much has been done with seat on the chamber of com­ into power, in a way. and the it yet. I think this is necessary, merce fo r another year at least, faculty stepping down a little because this is one thing the then judge after that. I would and listening to the student like to see the seat turned over students want to know. We're viewpoint and taking their atti­ to someone other than the a student government, and we're tude into consideration. chairman. He has enough re­ here for the students. Today, with the world problem as it is. sponsibility as it is. -Q—What should the students’ po­ SIMONS BAJOR it’s necessary to inform students sition be in formulation <£§ on this. I can't think of a better SIMONS-This is a problem social non-academic policies? way than for student government SIMONS-The several trial ciation (NSA)? How could it that affects the students, and BA JO R-I think that social to do i t open houses have been good. I be improved? w e re their student board. I and non-academic policy would B A JO R -N ft being a m ale. talked to several students in the SIMONS-I personally don't think that we should definitely be left primarily up to the indi­ I'm not that concerned with dorms that conducted them. know a whole lot about NSA. I take action on this. This has vidual dorms, which is usually d raft obligations, but I think Lots of times when I'm out know why we dropped out several bothered me. I t really upsets covered pretty well by MHA and ASMSU should tak e the incen­ studying and the dorm closes years ago and then got involved me to come here and see the WIC. However. I would like to tive to se t up a kind of coun­ at midnight. I have no where to again last year. We re not reaUv same thing I saw at home fo r see something more done as seling cen ter and inform the stu­ go. because I live in off-cam­ taking advantage of a ll the pro­ two dollars more. It's not fa ir. far as off campus students go. dents o f alte r nativ es and rights pus housing where we're not grams that they offer. Since we What rig h t do these merchants because you have a large per­ e tc .. but I d on't think they allowed to have males in our are spending several hundred have to gain mere p ro fit than centage of students living off should com e out and advise a residence after midnight either. dollars a year to belong to the or­ another one a hundred miles campus with no' say at all in student to tak e one stand or One thing they’ve done to help ganization. we should tr y to away? We should meet w ith policy formulation. Perhaps another. P rese n t them w ith the this is to open up Bessev and make a little more use of its pro­ the chamber of commerce their governing groups could altern ativ es and le t th e student Berkey until 1 a.m. on week­ grams. But I don't think we and see what action we help with this. m ake the decision. days. I would like to see open should speak out on international can take. This is being done SIMONS-Since I came here houses pushed a little more. affairs which they do some­ now. but we need to step up as a freshman, students have Q -W k at should th e students’ BAJOR-1 think the tria l open times. and we here at Michigan this action, because I'm con­ been given a lot more freedom. role be in acad em ic pokey form - houses now are a good idea. They State have voted not to. cerned and I know that many Most things are left up to the alatioa? haven't really been started too BAJOR-Because of m y view­ students are also. individual now as far as when B A JO R -I think th a t a student much in women's dorms, and point on student governments he wants to come in. how he academic council th at is reason­ u ntil they are tried for a while talking stands on issues. I dis­ wants to dress, meals, etc. If a ably informed will really help there, and a little longer in the agree w ith NSA in that it does Q~Do you see any new areas dorm would like to vote and de­ in academic policy formulation. men's dorms, perhaps a few take stands on Vietnam, etc. I ASMSU should become involved cide on a dress regulation, it's I'd like to s e e the majority of more terms, and after they're would like to see us continue our with? a ffilia tion w ith them, because there are a lot of good points in SIMONS—Right now I don't. NSA. If it were changed to more I thought the bookstore was an A S M S U elections April 11 of an organization where student excellent idea, but they just governments could come to­ haven't been able to get it on the gether and share what they're road. This has been cut from doing, it would be much more the budget fo r next year, so I On April 11. all undergraduate students Monday. Pete Ellsw orth, vice chairman valuable. I would like to see our think if we work w ith the areas may go to the polls to elect their student of the th ird session board announced his delegates change so that we we re involved in rig ht now. governm ent candidacy fo r the position of chairman. would have more cabinet mem­ and try to gain a reputation w ith Students will be asked to vote for six Ellsw orth is a pre-law student from East bers going, rather than having them, it is the best thing we can m em bers a t larg e to the fourth session of the Lansing w ith a 3.64 gpa. elected officials who may not be do. Associated Students of MSU student board. His activities in ASMSU include co-direc­ fa m ilia r w ith the operation of Two seni or s , two juniors, one sophomore torship of external public relations, member­ NSA. I would not like to see BAJOR-The issue of commu­ and one female will be chosen. ship on the tra ffic court and the comparative members-at-large as delegates, nications always comes up. Other offices on the ballot will be the pres­ price study committee prior to being elected because they have enough con­ There has been a lot of talk about ident and vice president of Senior Class Coun­ as jun ior member-at-large in last spring s cerns in the U niversity itself. more communication w ith the cil. president of Off Campus Council and election. students themselves but nothing delegates to the National Student Associa­ has really been done. There has tion. Monday. Ellsw orth explained his reasons Q -W hat do you envision as the role of the cabinet? What would been an attem pt to assign board The' six candidates which are chosen to fo r taking this route to the election rather you change? members to complexes, but fill the member-at-large seats will sit on the than conducting a public campaign for sen­ B A JO R -I think the cabinet this hasn't always been carried student board for the fourth session of AS­ ior member-at-large. could probably take over a few of through. I would like to see MSU. " I wanted to run a campaign but it was the duties of the board. I would something put in the code of This section has been devoted to inter­ not feasible in light of m y responsibilities like to see the cabinet take the operations, listing the exact views with the Candidates for these mem- as vice chairm an." he said. " I would have initiative in instituting such duties of members-at-large. ber-a t-large positions. had to resign as vice chairman or do an in­ programs as "m eet student gov­ and assigning board members Another important aspect of ASMSU will justice to the job in order to run a cam­ ernm ent" and orientation pro­ to complexes at the beginning take place April 15 when the new board paign." grams so that freshmen can be­ .of the term . Board members elects a chairman. Ellsw orth explained that the next two come fa m ilia r w ith what is go­ should come down to the stu­ According to the code of operations, any weeks w ill be the busiest for him as he is ing on at ASMSU. Too often dents' level for a change in­ member-at-large or any past voting mem­ p artially responsible fo r tying together they're handed literature that stead of expecting students to ber of the board is eligible to run. everything done during the third session. they never read and they spend come to them. Michigan State News, E ast Lansing, Michigan1 3 Sophs discuss platforms Six candidates are vying for receive student complaints, help determine strengths and carried a ll the way through, GROTEW OHL-Yes it should, the single sophomore member- student questions and student weaknesses in the academic should be considered to the but the only problem here is at-large seat: David Grotewohl. ideas, but so fa r as estab­ area. utmost and actually put in when the board does take a stand Muskegon; James Jackson. lishing a board for draft de­ JACKSON-Education is in action whenever possible. there is a question of whether Waukeegan. 111.: Chuck Mos- ferment. I see no need. the hands of the instructors. This is one situation. 1 think, it represents the wishes of the tov. Toledo. Ohio: David Eade. MOSTOV-There should be a But I think students do have that is pretty good at this students. However, the board Dearborn: Jewel Lasky. St. draft counseling service which a worthwhile gripe. Course university. It seems here that should take a position on the Louis. Mo.: and Je ff Stewart. provides a ll possible inform ­ evaluation is a good area for most committees do have stu­ issues. But the board should Birmingham. ation available about obliga­ student government. The ad­ dents working, though more not give money for things such Grotewohl carries a 2.51 , tions and various alternatives, visory boards to the colleges often than not there are more as sending students to anti­ gpa in history. His activities but it should not be aimed at haven't yet taken really con­ faculty members than stu­ draft meetings, or sending include membership on the how to get out of the draft. structive measures. They've dent members. S till th e ''s tu ­ medical supplies to North V ie t­ Student L'nion Board. Miss dents are given a chance to nam. MSU Pageant and the MadHat- voice their opinion: I feel EA D E-The prim ary concern ter's Midway. thev are being considered. of ASMSU should be w ith the Jackson is an urban planning GROTEWOHL- This is a students of MSU. As far as m ajor w ith a 3.33 G.P.A. His touchy situation because stu­ taking a position on certain campus activities include dents want as much freedom issues, the board should be very work on ASMSUs course as they can get while the careful that they have a vast evaluation and co-chairman­ faculty seems to take the op­ m ajority of the students behind ship of the com ptroller's posite position. But I think them. They would be putting bookstore committee. that students should be on a label on us which may not be faculty committees and sim i­ representative of the student Mostov carries a 2.90 lar groups, possibly w ith equal opinion. On the Vietnam situ­ G.P.A. in James Madison representation. This year stu- ation. fo r example. ASMSU College. His activities include directorship of fo u r' ASMSU programs, student insurance, 'student opinion research and distribution for the travel committee and course eval­ uation. He was also assistant chairman of public relations for the Water Cwrnival. Eade has not declared a m ajor and has a 3.26 G.P.A. He has been active in dorm government. Miss Lasky is an adver­ EADE JACKSON tising m ajor w ith a 2.40 G.P.A. She lists her activities as membership of the East McDonel steering committee. East McDonel judicial boSrd and hall council and a w rite r for the Oracle. Stewart carries a 2.90 G.P.A. in James Madison College His activities include vice-presidencv in dorm gov­ ernment and substitute rep­ resentative to Men's Halls Association. The following is an inter­ STEWART MOSTOV view w ith the candidates. Q - What should ASMSU’s role dents are starting to be on should not support an anti-war be in inform ing students about faculty committees for the or an anti-draft demonstration, their d ra ft obligations? firs t time, but the situation is or form any opinion unless the EADE--I think ASMSU should fa r from what it should be majority of the students was inform students about their because the students have behind them. The only way draft obligations, and I think hardly any say at all. the students opinions can be this is a very good service for E A D E -I think that stu­ found out would be by sending them to perform. ASMSU dents should have quite active out questionnaires to individ­ should not do things like get­ role in academic policy for­ ual students. ting students in touch w ith mulation because they are the JACKSON -In some instances, someone in Toronto, but I ones who take the classes. yes. ASMSU could work foe an think this would be a good While students should have open housing law. community service because many stu­ LASKY GROTEWOHL a more active role in academic relations issues. As far as dents are misinformed about policy formulation, the people taking national stands. ASMSU their d ra ft obligations. The students are mature got to sift inform ation down who make the policies do have would be going out on a limb JACKSON—I think ASMSU enough to make their own to each student. a better education. There in that the majority of .stu­ should help s ift out inform ­ decisions. M O ST O V -It's im portant to should be more questionnaires dents wouldn't necessarily agree. ation on the d ra ft to students, GROTEW OHL-I think that have students on faculty com ­ so that the policy makers STEWART-Under the present possibilv through Spartacuss. ASMSU should inform the stu­ m ittees dealing with academ ic • can know student opinions system of representation, which the ASMSU newsletter, and dents about their d ra ft ob­ policy to keep the faculty and and have a broader base from I feel is very poor. I wouldn't through the State News. I don't ligations. Any service that adm inistration in tune with stu­ which to work. Students should say they are in a position think ASMSU s role is to take ASMSU can give the students dent attitudes. not make their own policy to take a stand or move in a stand and. for example, set would certainly benefit them, Student voices should not because each student is not any direction on a contro­ up d ra ft counseling program and d ra ft obligations are one necessarily be equal to the qualified. The present sit­ versial issue such as these. specifically for those who want of the m ajor concerns of col­ faculty, but the voices need uation comes fa irly close to When they do. they are auto­ out of the draft. lege students. to be there. From my position this ideal. Questionnaires are matically taking the position STEWART-You want to be as a student, enough has not passed out and courses and that all or most students of sure that you ,-don't select a Q~ What should the students’ been done in this area. Com­ teachers rated. I would like MSU feel this way and are bias, and from what I've been role be in academic policy munication between faculty and to see a group of students, moving in this direction. able to gather about the pol­ formulation? How close does student is s till lacking, al­ perhaps formed by ASMSU. I don't think that can be ascer­ icies .proposed, the d ra ft de­ the present system of stu­ though the residential colleges who would look into m atters tained under the present system. ferment counseling center that dent advisory committees, etc., are fa r ahead in student- such as rating teachers and They can't have referendum on came u p 'a t ASMSU has leaned come to this ideal? courses. Questionnaires are every issue that comes up. toward one extreme, namely, STEW ART-Certainly stu­ faculty interaction. LASKY -A ca d e m ic pol­ good, but even better would However, with a system of re­ draft dodging. dent opinion should be sought icy should be ju s t from the be a student group who could presentation having individual LASKY - I t seems ASMSU by the faculty, but I wouldn't adm inistrators, from the teach­ really look into the courses members-at-large responsible to shouldn't have too much of want to see the students in ers them selves, yet the stu­ and suggest to the faculty given areas they can have a a role in this. I have read the position of making the dent is the one that is always and the adm inistration what better idea of what exactly in the student handbook that policy decisions. As fa r as affected. 1 think joing com ­ they would like to see.” the class wants. But there is a there is already a structure the academic life is con­ m ittees a re g reat, students danger. In using your acade­ fo r this. ASMSU though, can cerned. I don't think we can and faculty work m ore to­ Q~Shouïd ASMSU take a posi­ mic freedom and in protesting play a key role in directing compete w ith the faculty. tion and try to implement it on gether. m ore as equals, but the students to find their an­ Course evaluation which is the students' ideas should be such issues as Vietnam, the (co a tfa n sd a a p o g e t» swers. It should be there to just getting under way. w ill draft, open boosing, etc.? Æ Wednesday, April 3, 1968 5 in s e n io r m e m b e r c o n t e s t In the senior race, there are was passed unanimously by field. The students walk out of But I cannot see how the ad­ munity rest rooms, and they five candidates: Jeff Zeig. the board. We do have an obli­ the room and say "F ine, so I've m inistration can feel that it have guys running up and down Hicksville. N Y . : Allen Mint­ gation to the students to inform taken a term of Poli. Sci. " has the right to te ll the stu­ the halls it would be rough zer. Beachwood. Ohio: Terry them of their obligations to the BOYD-The student's power dents how to react, how to to implem ent a visitation pol­ Miller. Elk Rapids. Mich. : draft. What options they have, in policy form ulation should be act. and how to think. If they icy. I would like to see it Harvey Dzodin. Oak Park. not exactly draft-dodging, but in proportion w ith his interest try to dq that they are just tried, preferably in one of Mich.: and Joel Boyd. Pon­ what programs are available in the policy. If the policy di­ stifling the university and the those dorms firs t to see if tiac. Mich. to them such as officer-train­ rectly concerns the student, it student body. It's about tim e it works. If it could work Zeig is a zoology major with ing programs, enlisting and should be decided on more by they let us grow up on our own. there it would be a good a 2.70 gpa. He was vice presi­ other means like getting out the student than some policy thing. dent for student services during of the country. I think these are further from him. BOYD--Social policy should M IL L E R -I see no reason the third session of ASMSU and options that would not be fu lly Q—How close does the present be up to the individual, such not to attem pt it. Y ou'll never has a long list of campus activ­ explored by other offices such situation come to this ideal? as women's hours. It's up to find out if it w ill work without ities. including, director of as Colonel Rodney's office, M IL L E R -I would like to see the g irl when she gets in. trying it. The tria l open houses freshman orientation, partici­ and men's hall programs, and iü¡lili pation in water carnival, mem­ d ra ft deferments. ber of the registrar's commit­ M IN T Z E R -I feel that ASMSU tee on registration. Blue Key should inform the students of honorary and regional alternate what can be done, but I^ io n 't delegate to the National Student think that ASMSU should Set it ­ Association. self up as a d ra ft dodgers asso­ Mintzer majors in Chinese ciation or anything like that. It studies and carries a 2.63 gpa. He is vice-president of should provide a ll the informa­ tion that is available in coopera­ Jfl IH1 his fraternity and was on the ex­ tion w ith the new center across ecutive board of East complex the street. fljM weekend. ' Q—What should the students' Miller majors in Russian role be in academic policy form­ W gflÉOf studies and holds down a 3.43 ulation? gpa. He lists as his activities: Z E IG -I think the students president of the Russian club, should have some say in what the treasurer of Farmhouse frater­ policy should be. I can't say that nity and a member of the MSU they should have a voice in say­ marching band. ing we shouldn't change the jHmmmmIB‘ -A ■ Dzodin carries a 3.89 gpa in grading policy for example. I f it Political Science-Pre Law. He sat on the third session of AS­ MSU as one of the junior mem- bers-at-large. Dzodin's other comes down to it. I would like to see a referendum on stu­ dent opinion so that the faculty would know exactly what stu­ Vmm - activities include member- dent opinion is. MINTZER ZEIG DZODIN at-large to the all-Univer- 'M IL L E R -T h e student should sity radio board, officer in Sny­ be involved as much as possible. not up to the residence hall. were a step* in the right der Hall, and member of Phi I firm ly believe that the student at least a good implementation direction. They should be con­ ASMSU or the faculty. E ta Sigma. Omicron Delta is the im portant person in aca­ of the ARF as a basis. If these policies which have been p rint­ Z E IG -I think it should tinued on a tria l basis, to let Kappa and Blue Key honoraries. demic policy, and he should be be definitely up to ASMSU the student participate in Boyd is a mathematics educa­ able to work w ith the faculty ed now can be aired and tried out. the U niversity and the student to form any social policies, enough of them so that he can tion m ajoi and carries a 2.50 and the administration. I have and then to parcel it out to get an idea of how they work so gpa. His activities include pres­ a feeling that sometimes the w ill both benefit. ident of Armstrong Hall, and a upper echelons of the University DZODIN-This year the real dorms and say we suggest that he can communicate with member of Phi Eta Sigma and tend to reflect their opinions work has to be done. I'm making this policy, but w e 'll leave the adm inistrators on the it up to you. I t should rest effectiveness and what his Enzian honoraries. without adequate student opin­ proposals on changes in cu rri­ views are on this program. culum and setting up honors pro­ w ith ASMSU. Two of7the five seniors will ions. or adequate student work DZODIN-The present tria l grams. etc. U ntil this is done. I M IL L E R -T h e individual of be elected to the board. The in the organization. don't think that the students' course knows what he wants. open-houses really are trials following is an interview with DZO DIN-This is an important Dorm itories have played an for visitation and I don't think the candidates. area and students have to take academic policy form ulation role w ill be anywhere near ideal. increasing role in providing w e re kidding anybody. The an instrumental part here. The M IN T Z E R -It doesn't ap­ social programs. ASMSU object of the tria l open houses Q—What should ASMSU’s role board has taken the in itia l steps, is to see if the visitation policy should probably m erely oversee be ia informing stndeati about during the third session, to set proach the ideal at all. BO YD-W e're a lot closer to what is done by the dorms and would work. The students in their draft obligation? up a student academic council. this university want some type help out in any way possible, BOYD-ASMSU should see Its prim ary responsibility is academic freedom at MSU than some schools and behind quite a rather than legislate on the m at­ of visitation policy. Now I that students are completely academic involvement. This don't want a policy that would informed of minor details about year we have implemented the few others. ter. let members of the opposite the draft: Iknow a lot of students academic freedom report to a Z E IG ~ It doesn't. I can't see Q-Should a visitation policy, where. There is not that much above and beyond the present sex in any hours of the day are worried about things in the large extent by setting up the or nigfit. But I would favor draft they shouldn't be worried student-facultv committees and student voice, as such, rig ht now. trial open houses, be attempted? restricted hours because about at all. The information the committee on facultv- Possibly on something like this M IN TZE R -The m ajor pro­ there are people who want system shouldn't be based on student rights and responsibil­ a referendum would be a good blem in a dorm is you're living and deserve privacy. This how to avoid the draft, but more ities. the various departmental thing. w ith 60 people. 59 of whom on letting them know their rights committees, the lib ra ry com­ you didn't chose to live with. should be done by the govern­ and obligations and what they m ittee and so on. Q-What should be the student’s Personally. I would like to ment groups through ASMSU. can and cannot do. It's im portant that the students position in formulating social, see visitation allowed every but I think each dorm should Z E IG -Iv e been working on take a p art here in proposing new non-academic policies? night just as if you were in have a schedule so that if a a draft services program that has legislation. I think students D Z O D IN -I think in this an apartment off campus. I student wanted to move into a dorm where they had visitation, been implemented under my should not have the only say. it area the student should have would like to see it done but fine. He would know the ob­ vice presidency in the cabinet. should be a decision arrived at by fa r the p rim ary voice. I would rather not comment ligations. privileges and res­ Right now we're trying to work by students and faculty, and in a It's up to the faculty and the more about how the total stu­ ponsibilities he was getting. out ways of procuring material secondary capacity by the ad­ adm inistration to a little les­ dent body feels because I do Q. -Should ASMSU take a for the draft. Not a draft coun­ m inistrators who have to imple­ ser degree to make policies know that in many dorms, such as Hubbard Hall, many stu­ position and try to implement seling program, but a service ment these decisions. We have to concerning academic areas be­ it on such issues as Vietnam, program, to tell the students prod the committees to really cause this is their forte, but dents were opposed to having the draft, open housing, etc.? what their obligations are. get going and do the work that social areas are the areas three visitations a week. I BOYD-A11 such issues MILLER - ASMSU should has to be done. which affect students direct­ have a feeling that it might be overdone. should be left up more to the inform students about their M INTZER - We've already ly. which affect our c iv il rights students. When the student draft obligations in their started form ing CUE and other as students and I think here Since the purpose of the dorm best interests, only if the stu­ organizations and I think this the students should have the is to have a place to study, body lets ASMSU know that dent requests it. This means should be continued. I t seems to prim ary voice and decision perhaps this is much more they want the world to know making ability. There should important. what they think on these that students who want to me that there are many profes­ issues, then and only then get information about their sors on campus who term after be a ratio between students, BOYD-W e need a visit- faculty and administrators, itation policy so that women should ASMSU come out w ith obligations, or any type of al­ term have been seen to be bad ternatives to service may do professors. The students should w ith students having the higher can vis it and vice versa when­ a statement that the people so. ASMSU should not go into have the complete say in number. ever they want. Friends at of MSU think this and that. areas that are covered by other whether these professors should M IN TZ E R -A s I stated be­ the U niversity of Michigan ASMSU's job isn't to te ll stu­ administrations or other agen­ be allowed to continue. It seems fore fo r the academic policy and from a school out East dents what they think. formulation. I feel the stu­ were shocked to learn that MSU Z E IG -I don't b e lie v e cies . Rather than be repetitious, that the most dynamic people coeds can't be in the rooms that ASMSU should restrict they should try to get into new should be there, the ones that dents should have almost the total say. On the dorm level, itself to the University. In areas. make you want to learn. There at any time. DZODIN~As you know we took are a lot of professors who just the dorms themselves should Z E IG -I would definitely doing so I think it gets very- the initial steps to set up a draft cannot talk to groups of 200-600 determine a ll the policies for like to see it le ft up to the narrow in its concept. I think counseling clinic last term. I students and let them know what their dorm under the basic dorms. In a dorm like Brody nr Shaw where thev have com- (continuedonpage 5) think this is a good idea and there is to be known about their guidelines of MHA and ASMSU. Michigan State News, E a st Lansing*, Michigan- £ Senior candidates presented (continued from page 4) Q .-How do you view a ffil­ year. There are too many con- paign going on this year, not 0f the student bodv can we as iation w ith NSA? How could it nections w ith the CIA and other to have Kennedy. Humphrey, students gain those th iM s which by taking stands on local and be improved? organizations. I can t see how Johnson. Nixon. Goldwater. we desire. As long as we coo- national issues, it can further Z E IG -A s an alternate NSA is really going to help Romney or anybodv here has tinue w ith the rivalry hrtwrm improve the academic atmos­ delegate to the state I went Michigan State U niversity. The been a total waste of the Great t h e dorms and the fraternities phere in the University. I to about four meetings and firs t thing we've got to do here Issues concept. and the other would encourage it to take we never had a quorum to is clean up our own house, and BOYD-The Cabinet is a w eU never accomplish what an intelligent stand. By this vote on having a chairman of get ourselves organized Then kmd of o fficial connection we re here to accomplish: that I mean, it must keep in mind regional NSA. I think national we d o n t need anybody else between the board and the is t0 provide an atmosphere the student body it represents. NSA can do some very good to work with. We re in the Big students, and can be very allowing us to gain the most oat It should take a stand not as things. The a ffilia tio n with Ten. we're working w ith Big useful when used properly. of college. The student board ASMSU as an organization, Alliance for Campus Talent Ten . . . committees, . . that . alone, ZEIG -The cabinet has to do this year should tr v to improve but as a representative body. is good but it has to be used. should be enough for us. I w ith the services what the stu- 0n manv of the committees and can t see spending the money dent is directly involved with, the cabinet we now have and and the tim e having members such as legal aid. etc. The bring about a better Great Issues of the student board taking problem w ith the cabinet is Series, Popular Entertaiimient trips a ll over the country to that it can be only as strong as and other aspects of student en- attend NSA meetings. This the cabinet president is. I f he tertainm ent and education doesn t seem to help the stu- ¡s weak and everyone in the cab- which during the past year have dent body at a ll because if it ¿net doesn't know what is going been greatly slighted. The stu- was of any value, there m ight 0n then the cabinet isn't func- dent board should also realize have been some improvement tioning well. I'd like to see that although it must cooperate in the last couple of terms. the Cabinet strengthened. They w ith the administration it must BOYD-NSA can be a good tried a couple of things, like a also serve as the body in opposi- thing if used properly. We've vice-president head, but that tion to it. ASMSU has got to be had some problems w ith it didn t work out too well. Per- brought into the 20th century, no and need a little more study haps a newsletter. to strengthen m atter how many people scream on what the aims of NSA are. communications w ithin the cabi- and yell and no matter how we should take advantage ot net would be good. As fa r as new unset the U niversity sets It's the extra things NSA provides, programs go. I think the ones K T s to p b ^ ^ a S h c e l I t 'll be a couple of years be­ they have now have to be tury institution. There are fore w e 'll know if we've judged strengthened. There has to be modern problems before us NSA correctly. more money to publicize things amj we must solve them with such as the tutoring service, modern solutions, etc. In the area of student BOYD-The incoming board Q - What do you envision as the welfare, a responsible discount w ill be p rim a rily concerned with role of the Cabinet? What services program should be getting visitation across because would you change about it? set up on a local level. the students are wanting it M IL L E R BOYD Q—What are the three of four pretty badly. I envision work- M IL L E R -T h e role of the things the board should be con- ¡ng w ith the popular entertain- cabinet is to do on a University cerned with primarily this year? ment committee to get a little I think we spent money to level what can't be done by the What are the immediate goals better entertainment for the stu­ D ZO D IN -Last year when join, ajjd we haven't used it smaller government units' such of the incoming board? I was running for junior mem- dents. We also need to look as MHA and IFC. These smal­ ber-at-large. I thought yes. yet. ar.d I think we can get over the Academic Freedom Re- ler units should exercise their D Z O D IN -F irst of all we but now I think not. We have some ¿ood service by using it as much as possible. that. A.yso things like the U.S. own jurisdiction to the best of have to concern ourselves with such a tremendous job to do ZEIG -It should concern it­ student travel service, which their ability, to try to be a the academic freedom report, here on campus, by changing self for one thing with the could lelp students who are sounding board for public opin- There must be a systematic policies and so on I think we're grading system, increasing im­ ion. and in this way present challenging of out-dated and ar- attempting to divide the stu­ going t J Europe over the sum­ plementation of the Academic mer. T lis could be used to sup­ their policies to ASMSU. b itra ry rules not educationally dent body if we start taking Freedom Report, considering DZODIN-The role of the justified in the Student-Facultv stands on the d ra ft and open plement some of the policies possible changes in some of cabinet is to provide programs Judiciary. We should work on housing. My p rio rity system of the I nion Board. the areas of the report, con­ which students could not other- such things as liftin g the ban is that firs t we ll work on MIL1JBR-NSA has helped sidering changes in hoars for wise achieve easily. Programs on women in coops, or such policies to benefit the stu­ ASMSU. It has given it a freshmen women, and getting such as tutoring, insurance, legal m inor things as getting rid of dents. Second w e 'll work in pnuch broader concept of stu­ student opinion on that. I ’d aid etc. These programs de- the archaic chaperone rules, the cabinet area of programs dent rganization and helped like to see them considering fin ite ly must be given more Also, it's very important that and third w e 'll provide an guide \SMSU in knowing what changes in the grading policy, public exposure. We should we get a specific statement in educational function. I think that is goi' g on in other student or­ changing what the student is able have a concerted e ffo rt in the AFR indicating that a stu- in this area of the educational ganize ions. I would like t- to take as fa r as the uni­ see ic olvement w ith other or­ the State News and WMSN to dent is innocent until proven function, the board should pre­ versity college courses avail­ publicize these programs and let guilty, and that the burden of sent a ll sides of the issue ganize ‘ ions sim ilar to this. able. As fa r as credit- Per hi, as ASfylSU doesn't even students know that they are proof rests w ith the accuser, on pressing national issues non credit, pass-fail system available. We've had increased We need more student academic like c iv il rights and c iv il dis­ need £,n organization if it can goes. I'd like to see some use this year of such things involvement. There should be a orders. Vietnam, and policies be ( ¿ie otherwise. I would action by the student board on as the loan fund, but they're student seat on the Academic 68 The board should make a like look into this m atter that. mvsejf. The general concept not really being used to their Council to a ir our views to the concerted e ffo rt to bring all fu ll potential. I know the Blue faculty. We should be able to of the national organization MILLER-One is academic the various poeple here who Ribbon Committee, which AS- get the library open from 11 of students is very good. freedom. I s till think this is represent a ll the sides of MSU set up. is looking into this p.m. to 1 a.m. for study pur- D ZO D IN - Our a ffiliation an open question. The student the issue. But to take a side area and they have many con- poses. We should get study days w ith NSA is good, in so far must be able toifaalize his posi­ on an issue like this w ill just crete suggestions such as putting before finals. Great Issues as they provide us w ith many tion in the U niversity and I distract us from our task of a fu ll tim e adm inistrator in Series must be expanded by services such as insurance think ASMSU can help. I would making this a better campus charge of the cabinet. There is making use of long-distance programs, travel programs, encourage ASMSU to take an to live and a better place one key person, the cabinet closed c irc u it TV to talk with active part in national student for students. student' government infor­ president, who we have to guar- and hear the newsmakers. We organizations. We have to M IN T Z E R -I don't think it mation. and the alliance for antee next year w ill be strong, should sponsor an issue forum recognize that students have should fo r the simple reason campus talent which helps Without a strong cabinet presi- series on topics such as Viet- sim ilar problems, and by shar­ that 1 think it would ruin the bring entertainment to campus dent. you have a very weak nam and politics 68 . We ing these problems we'U be able f effectiveness of ASMSU as far at greatly reduced prices cabinet. need increased representation to further help any student who as Vietnam and the draft These services are fine. We M IN T Z E R -I feel that the through frequent professional wishes to become involved in are concerned. As fa r as open should make increased use of cabinet positions are filled too quality surveys of student the U niversity rather than housing goes in East Lansing. them. We should let the stu­ much on the spoils system. It opinion. Also by assignment of just sitting back. Another goal I think ASMSU should take a dent know through the State seems that we'd be better off members-at-large to specific of ASMSU should be to make very drastic step in making News what we are doing w ith w ith a much more representative complexes. We have to aug- the student as aware as pos­ sure that any student attending NSA. I don't think the students group of students on the cabinet, ment Spartan Round Table w ith sible of its impending legisla­ Michigan State U niversity has of MSU should be involved in I think the role is pretty explicit a U niversity forum, which in- tion. its own structure, work, equal rights to liv e - in any- the policies that NSA takes just in its existence. There are stead of a show, like Spartan etc. By this, it can help housing w ithin the area of the part in I don't think it's our certain committees which Round Table is now. would be De to give the student an aware- , U niversity. I t it's directly con­ place to comment on issues must exist and their func- an inform al gathering each ness of ASMSU that he needs, n e c te d w ith the student body and take sides which would tions must be carried out and month of several students and A student must have this in in their physical and academic further divide the students. they must be done w ith a several administrators. This order to appreciate ASMSU •existence here. ASMSU should This should be up to groups leader in charge. As fa r as way we'd keep the lines of rather than totally criticize, take a position. On m atters like Young Democrats. SDS changing anything. I don't think communications open. C riticism is valid only when it asuch as Vietnam and the draft. and Young Americans for anything should be changed ex- M IN TZE R -The board should is informed and if ASMSU does I feel that if the ASMSU mem- Freedom. cept to get better people in realize that it's about tim e to not give this information to o bers want to take a position M IN TZER--I don't aee any there. Take fo r example the start stopping this fra t rat. the student, the criticism it that's one thing, but f^ r the sense in it. I don t think it Great Issues Series. That left dorm ra t and off-campus rat receives w ill not represent body to take a position that should be at all. The students a lot to be desired this year, business. Only through a con- anvthing that could be termed represents the total student voted it down earlier in the With the m ajor political cam- certed e ffo rt of a ll elements as helpful suggestion. opinion is different. Wednesday, April 3,1968 J u n io r s lis t B o a r d is s u e s problems in student p artici­ tralized restrictions: the whole vidual quite a Tot what the poli­ The following are candidates dent Academic Council offers a cies should be. There are too very good opportunity for the pation has been in getting com­ 1 concept is to grant the individual for junior member-at-large: petent people. Hopefully. Stu­ responsibility. It should be brok­ many restrictions in this area. Ray Doss. Birmingham: Morgan students to get involved in course evaluation, grade change, the dent Academic Council can take en down into as small a group Q-Should ASMSU take a posi­ Moore. San Francisco. Cal.: tion and try to implement it on as possible, without infringing Tom Samet. Cleveland. Ohio: grading system, this sort of a leading role in this selec­ tion and in coordinating the upon the rights of their fellow such issues as Vietnam, the Roger Smith. Clarkston: and thing. Students should have some voice, and a very strong various student advisory com m it­ students. In the case of visita­ draft, open housing, etc.? Michael Trame. Dearborn. TRAME-ASMSU could pos­ tion. it could better be handled Doss, a pre-law political one. in determining some of tees and student-faculty com­ the academic policies. I mittees. There is a real by a larger group because it sibly have a general policy on science major with a minor these issues, but certainly affects more than an individual. in French, has a 2.92 aver­ think the idea of advisory com­ need for communication between mittees is a good one. But the various college committees Visitation should be handled on shouldn't devote much tim e to age. He has written for Oracle, them. On issues such as Vietnam. a publication of MSU frater­ at least in my own college. 1 so that reforms taking place in a house level: this too may pre­ ASMSU should m ainly sunply in­ nities and sororities and has feel it hasn't been carried off one college don't go entirely sent problems because of stair- formation on all points of view been a sports writer for the Open housing can. of course, Wolverine. Doss has served be applied at a local level and as director of publications for dealt w ith specifically. There Inter-Fraternitv Council and are a lot of things at this Uni­ as chapter editor and public versity that only ASMSU as a relations chairman of Sigma student organization can really Chi fraternity. He has been a do much about. member of the Water Carnival DOSS—I don't feel that ASMSU Programs Committee and a should actually come out behind participant in a Mississippi one set of ideas for each one of tutorial project. these. I've always fe lt and it's be­ Moore, a pre-law major with coming increasingly more and a 2.02 average, has served as more im portant in today's so­ president and vice president . ciety that the youth of today are of Snyder Hall. He has been becoming much moreiw>litical ac­ a member of the , ASMSU tive. but the problem that one pop entertainment re-evaluation runs into is in the power struc­ committee and of the Men s ture of society. The views of Housing Associations' committee youth have greatly been ignored. on study open houses. When most people outside of a Samet is an English major university community hear such in the Honors College, with a 3.4 terms as student movements it average. He has served on the has a bad connotation. ASMSU Student -Faculty Committee on should just be the student board Academic Rights and Respon­ and represent the students. It sibilities. the Student Academic should not come out w ith a view Council and the ASMSU Blue SAMET MOORE DOSS because more than likely it would Ribbon Committee. He is a not be a view that would follow member of Sigma Alpha Mu that of everyone. The only way that well The advisory com­ unnoticed in another. The ways, lobby entrances and girls fraternity. mittees themselves need more Honors College Board can be wanting to visit their neighbors you can get any harmony is to Smith is a microbiology major influential because it has been in their housecoats. Possibly it take the views of the liberals with a 2.6 average. He has autonomy, and a little bit more equal ground with the faculty. one step ahead of the other won't work at all. But I do be­ and the radicals and let them served on the McDonel Hall We need a closer interaction advisory boards, possibly be­ lieve that you start w ith the get together and have debates Executive Council. with the faculty: for example, cause the Honors College it­ smallest unit and work up from and forums. By having one view Trame is a finance major with in Jastin Morrill, we have the self is more open to reform. there rather than centralizing it it would sort of create a false a 2.5 average. He has served atmosphere and impression of Honors College would serve as to begin w ith and working down on the public relations com­ opportunity to eat lunch, and through this opportunity we get a good model. The advisory Give the rights to the individuals what the students actually- mittee for Water Carnival and to sit down and talk to them boards are taking the right to begin with. I don't believe the thought. The youth movement as publicity chairman for Car­ not only about academic prob­ kind of initiative but it must university has any role in social today is very important. That's eers '61. He has been treasurer, lems. but our personal prob­ be carried much farther much policy because the U niversity's easily seen through two candi­ rush chairman and social chair­ function is academic. Michigan dates in the presidential race: lems. This is what we need, more effectively. man of Theta Xi and a member State is an orderly place and Gene McCarthy and Robert Ken­ getting on a more familiar TR AM E-The faculty should of the Inter-Fraternity Council ground with the faculty. retain control over deciding a runs very w ell and there is no nedy who are both making their Public Relations Committee. SAMET--The Academic Free g r a d i n g p o l i c y , pass-fail. reason not to trust responsible appeals to youth. And so the Q - What should the students’ role he In academic policy dom Report tells us the aims of etc. But student opinion must students w ith increasingly more style in the political system in student involvement are maxi­ be organized and considered responsibility especially w ith res­ this country has been that of formulation? How close does raising the issues and sharpening mum freedom within a structure Course evaluation is an ex­ pect to their social affairs the present system of student of necessary order. Viewing cellent way for students to TRAME-ASMSU should have the political debates between advisory committees, etc., come this there are not large limi­ become involved in the acade­ complete control in handling so­ them. The only way this can be to this ideal? DOSS-Most academic policy tations. Some of the limi­ m ic process: and. this gives cial regulations. The social life done is to bring in a variety the faculty and adm inistra­ of the student is not up to the of views: one view would not formation should be up to the tations placed on us are un­ reasonable. We need a stu­ tion a sound idea of where the University. We must get rid of be wise. There's an a ll engulf­ faculty. But it is important to instructors stand from a view­ the entire concept of <» /<»* << ing apathy that you find on cam­ have a few students to sit in dent seat on the Academic Coun­ cil. What is more crucial than point other than their own. /«Iren»«: right now student gov­ puses especially toward politics. on the meetings or on any Student advisory boards, how­ ernment is just chopping at it bit Having forums might create a place where they would be talk­ a role in policy making is the ability to obtain information ever. should have stronger posi­ by bit. Many areas of social pol­ much greater interest in politics ing about aay academic reform SMITH-It is imperative that regarding policy formulation. tions in areas such as helping icy must be turned over to the or policy changes. This way. Information is crucial to a start new courses or drop dorms rather than attem pt an all- ASMSU take a position that no . students could report back to present ones. They should have U niversitv rule: some dorm one else in this university has ASMSU and voice their opin­ responsible role in policy mak- ing. I'm not about to suggest an equal say in dropping and ad­ autonomy is needed to provide taken before, and that is tell­ ions. But the actual policy 55 students on the Council, ding courses from the cirriculum fo r special differences. ing the rest of the world just formulation should be done by there are 55 faculty members and in allowing alternatives to DOSS-It should be up to what our position is. There are the faculty. ASMSU and then ASMSU should 38.000 people at MSU. and col­ S M m - I would like to see an on the Council. By virtue of the four basics. training, there are people Q-What should the students’ delegate the responsibilities to lege age people represent 52 per. expansion of the course evalua­ better qualified to establish position be in formulating social, the dormitories and then on cent of the population of this tion ASMSU has now: compar­ policy. But the voice has got non-academic policies? down. ASMSU should deal w ith country. ASMSU should defin­ ing the polls they are taking main points, not any of the spe­ itely take a stand on national with the'Opinions of experts to be there and there has to M O O R E-I think definitely we be some response to that voice. need to give the students more c ific points of the social issue. issues. General Hershev has in the College of Education and And it's important for students responsibility. We have seen this This is again a reason for a stu­ made it quite clear that we are not just making recommenda­ to have some recognition past year that the students are dent attending a university, not not in a little ivory tower as many tions. but making actual de­ only to get an education but for people believe we are. The draft, mands on the administration for of how policy is being formed. tending towards more liberal so­ Areas such as professor evalua­ cial policies: this is what they the non-academic things. One s open housing and Vietnam are a change in policy and improve­ education is not lim ited to aca­ all areas we should be involved ment of the courses. There tion should be open to stu­ want. N aturally we have to have dents. While only professionals interaction between the m ajor demic types of activities but also with. should aim be financial support MOORE-Anv member of the can render a professional opin­ governing groups and the faculty includes non-academic ones that by the Cabinet or the Uni­ ion on instructors, student opin­ are equally as important. student board as an individual versity of the free university committee. We also need to be SMITH-I feel the policies has a right to say anything he classes, with the idea of slightly ion should be obtained and con­ aware of the student trends. I sidered. Student-Faculty Judi­ think that if we could do this, should be a lot more liberal wants to on any subject. But modifying them towards giving ciary should have "teeth" to en­ we would be much more suc­ than they are now because you as a member at large, he has a credit possibly o n .a pass or w ill not be infringing on some­ responsibility to the students fail basts. Advisory boards force its decisions. The fact that cessful on policy changes. the Judiciary can only suggest SAMET-I would like to see one's rights if they do not want of this university, and I think have the right idea, but much solutions to inequities in the ASMSU assume a leadership role to participate. If a g irl is op­ he has to be very careful in more can he done. present system is actually keep­ and initiate dialogue at least. I posed to no-hours fo r coeds that what he says when he comes M O O T I think that this is a is fine, she doesn't have to go definite area where the student ing students out of academic don't think that centralized lib ­ (continuedonpage7) i to be involved. The Stu­ policy formulation. One of the eralization is anv better than cen- out. It should be up to the indi­ Michigan State Newa» Samt .L-aMlag,. Michigan 7 i continued fro m page 6) Junior member contest prices in other non-collegiate person. But the student should necessary. ASMSU must con­ t h h * s the baw d should be< Hit on statements about Viet­ areas. have a say in the selection of cern itself with more practical cerned with prl— rB y this y a w ? nam or anything else. He has MOORE-Considering that the books and in the profit issues: Individual studeM draft What a re the iw w ed ialc g a a k to remember this~that he is rep­ these w ill affect the student di­ margin. Then the prices might problems as opposed to H f Viet­ of the iaraaalag board? resenting the students and nine rectly. I think ASMSU should not have to be so high. I nam w ar: open housing tjRfSast SA M E T -O f cru cial im par- jm e s out of ten. whatever he take a definite course of action. would like to see examination Lansing rather than ggperal tance to a vtahatian paUcy af says others w ill say. "w e ll, he's But again, before they act. they of the ASMSU operating support of open housing. ”a ’ should research it thoroughly budget. som e k ia i. Mapafully. p i k representing the students of I see many areas j ¿fig liberal. 1 think M ia vary in v a r ­ Michigan State U niversity-he's enough to be aware of what the in it which could be cut down. ft-W h a t go you enviriuu a s the iant to g e t a C adent aeat u a M e 3 student board m em ber." students' ideas are on th is - I strongly support the work of role of the CaM aet? W tapSN uU Academ ic CaancfL They're not going to recognize what the student feels about, for the Blue Ribbon committee andk you change about it? E xam ination a f ASMSU i him as ju st a single individual example, high cost of books or think that the ideas they have, SMITH-For the members-at- ture can be cru cial in < saying something that he wants. rent, something like this. But such as increasing the number of large at least, there shapM be ing the validity M a t's attached SAMET-I don't think that mere interaction with tag stu­ to student governm ent. Maps ASMSU shoulp be afraid to take dents. As it is now, I have never have to be taken to elim inate ik e ? position on such things. To be met the member-at-large serv­ im balance in the Stadant- effective the Student Board must ing the area of campus I am Faculty Ju diciary. er 0f Commerce in East Lan- meaningful issues at the Uni­ GROTEW OHL-From y h a t I this probably bothers a lot of cern themselves w ith the whole sing. It's very hard of course to versity. city, state, national and have been reading this year, they people. The thing that bothers social policy of MSU The social reason w ith merchants because international levels. ASMSU seem to have over-extended me is that the people that did system of the dorms and the they are going to charge what should see that the Academic themselves alreadv. I think that go to the NSA meeting seem to whole Greek system is very they can get. A boycott however, Freedom report is really put in- at least for the next couple of have no report on it. We spent outdated, and many policies do could effectively lower prices, to practice and not just there." years the board should concen­ something like $1.200 for these contradict the academic freedom JACKSON-We could work with There are a number of ties, or­ trate on problems they are al­ people to go down there, but report. I believe that MHA a better business bureau, with ganizations and committees in ready involved with, such as we don't seem to. have any and IFC have already begun t j,e Chamber of Commerce, the ASMSU that already exist, but Vietnam, the draft, student prob­ tangible results as to what working on this problem, but 1 liaison committee and the legal students are not aware 01 them lems and East Lansing. These problems seem to be enough for happened. would like to see the ASMSU department. If businesses are or what they accomplish: these STEWART-From what I un­ board really work on this founc| not to be giving students must be made known to the stu­ the board to concern themselves derstand of the relationship and get more changes, and a fa ir deal. I can see ASMSU dents. Present parking regula- with next vear.